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that helps us with contact

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tracing.

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>> Right.

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I understand that.

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>> Every day.

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>> Mark shore has been in close

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contact with vice president

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pence.

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They are always with each other.

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Short is now positive for the

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virus.

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>> Correct.

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>> CDC guidelines say that vice

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president pence should

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quarantine for 14 days.

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I understand the white house is

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trying to get around that but

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saying the vice president is an

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essential worker.

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Mark, how is going all over the

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country campaigning how is that

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essential work?

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He is holding rallies that could

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be spreading the virus.

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>> He is not just campaigning

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with you working.

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For anybody to suggest that the

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president has been out

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campaigning and not getting

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things done, all you have to do

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is look at the facts.

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>> He was on the campaign rally

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in Tallahassee.

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>> I'm not saying he is not

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campaigning.

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I'm saying that is only part of

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what he is doing and as we look

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at that, essential personnel,

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whether it's the vice president

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of the United States or anyone

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else.

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>> He is not following CDC

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guidelines.

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>> Jake, CDC guidelines does say

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essential personnel.

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>> Yes, it says wear a mask, if

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they wear a mask.

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>> I spoke to the vice president

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last night at midnight and I can

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tell you that what he is doing

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is wearing a mask, socially

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distancing and when he goes up

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to speak he will take the mask

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off and put it back on.

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He is wearing a mask as it

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relates to this particular thing

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because the doctors have advised

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him to do that.

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When we start to look at this,

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you know, here is where we

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really need to make sure.

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On your website yesterday, Jake,

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you know, your website is

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talking about now we think the

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spread is coming from small

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social groups and family groups.

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First it was large groups.

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Now it's small groups.

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>> Coming from all sorts of

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places because the pandemic is

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out of control.

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>> Here is what we have to do.

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We are not going to control the

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pandemic.

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We are going to control the fact

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that we get vaccines

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therapeutics and other --

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>> Why not get control of the

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pandemic?

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>> Because it is a contagious

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virus just like the flu.

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>> Why not make efforts to

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>> We are making efforts to

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contain it.

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>> By running all over the

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country and not wearing a mask

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is what vice president is doing.

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>> Let me just say this.

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What we need to do is make sure

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that we have the proper

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mitigation factors whether it's

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therapies or vaccines or

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treatments to make sure that

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people don't die from this.

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But to suggest that we are going

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to actually quarantine all of

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America and -- Joe Biden is

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saying lock everybody down.

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>> Not what he said.

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>> We are having a dark winter.