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coats, president's son-in-law

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Jared Kushner and Dr. Anthony

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Fauci.

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Most stunning to read and hear

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the president acknowledging he

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was told early on in early

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February that the virus was a

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big problem in China.

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Airborne transmission was

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happening and was far more

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serious than any flu.

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What he told Woodward about the

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coronavirus threat and what he

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was telling the American people

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in that same period of time are

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night and day.

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The gravity of what he was being

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told compared to the limited

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actions he took in those early

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days raise new and profound

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questions about this president's

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pandemic mismanagement.

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CNN obtain and early copy of

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"Rage" and audio recordering

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Woodward made in his 18

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conversations with the

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president.

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Jamie Gangel is breaking the

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news now and here to walk us

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through the most significant

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piece of information.

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Jamie, start with early

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February.

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Little reason to worry, but --

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>> Remember those from

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watergate, Howard baker.

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What did the president know and

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when did he know it?

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That's what Bob Woodward lays

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out in this book.

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What we know is from Woodward's

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account on January 28th security

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adviser Robert o'brien tells him

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in a tough secret briefing this

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is going to be the greatest

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threat of your presidency.

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At the same time, the president

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is, as you said, playing it

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down.

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But what Woodward did with the

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president's permission was, he

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recorded all of these

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interviews.

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There are 18 wide-ranging

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interviews.

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And what we're going to play you

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first is the president in his

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own words, February 7th, telling

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Woodward in striking detail just

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how much he understands about

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how deadly and dangerous the

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virus is.

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>> And so what was president XI

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saying yesterday?

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>> We were talking mostly about

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the -- the virus, and I think

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he's going to have it in good

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shape, but you know, it's a very

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tricky situation.

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It goes through air, Bob.

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That's always tougher than the

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touch.

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You know?

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The touch you don't have to

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touch things.

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Right?

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But the air, you just breathe

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the air.

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That's how it's -- passed.

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And so that's a very tricky one.

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That's a very delicate one.

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It's also more deadly than your,

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you know, your, even your Streb

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Sten uous flus.

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People don't realize we lose

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20,000, 30,000 people a year

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here moop would think that.

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>> I know.

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>> Pretty amazing.

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I say the same thing.

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This is more deadly.

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This is five per, you know, 5%

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versus 1% and less than 1%.

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You know?

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So this is deadly stuff.

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>> John, I just want all of us

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to remember, we are used to the

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virus now, as used to it as you

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can be, but if you go back to

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the beginning of February,

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American public thought it was a

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problem in China.

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The notion of it being airborne,

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5% more deadly, these are very

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specific details that the

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president had in the very same

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time period that he is saying,

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it's all going to go away.

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>> That's February 7th.

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Just played that conversation.

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He talks how deadly it is and

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said two weeks later 20 days

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later in India, a problem that's

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going to go away.

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Within a couple of days going to

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be down to zero.

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The president Kelling Woodward

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one thing and telling the Wold

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something very different.

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Interesting, the president makes

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no bones about it, doing it on

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purpose.

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Decided as a strategy not to

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co-va the seriousness because he

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didn't want to incite" a panic."

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>> Correct.

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Woodward does another interview

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March 19th.

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We have the audio of that.

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Again, the president in his own

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words.

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Just to set this up, remember,

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he has been publicly minimizing

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the threat to young people.

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Not a problem for young people.

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He still minimizes the threat to

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young people.

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So he addresses that, and then

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you'll hear he admits that he's

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not sharing everything he knows.

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>> Now it's turning out it's not

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just old people, Bob.

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Today and yesterday, some

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startling facts came out.

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It's not just old, older people.

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>> Yeah.

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Exactly.

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>> Putting young people -- so

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what's going on.

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>> So give me a moment of

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talking to somebody, going

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through this with Fauci or

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somebody who kind of, it caused

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a pivot in your mind?

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Because it's clear just from

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what's on the public record that

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you went through a pivot on this

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to, oh, my god.

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The gravity is almost

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inexplicable and unexplainable?

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>> I think, Bob, really, to be

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honest with you.

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>> Sure.

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I want you to be.

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>> I wanted to -- I wanted to

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always play it down.

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I still like playing it down.

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>> Yes.

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>> Because I don't want to

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create a panic.

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>> You know, but, John, this

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wasn't just about panic.

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The white house, we know, is

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very concerned about the

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economy.

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The president is very concerned

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about getting re-elected, and

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what I think you have to just

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remind people is, we've put

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together some of what the

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president is saying at the same

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time publicly in stark contrast.

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>> The virus -- they're working

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hard.

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Looks like by April, you know in

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here toy when it gets a little

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warmer, it miraculously goes

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away.

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Hope that's true.

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But we're doing great in our

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country.

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China, I spoke with president

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XI, they're working very, very

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hard.

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When you have 15 people, and 15

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in a couple of days will be down

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close to zero.

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That's a pretty good job we've

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done.

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>> It's going to disappear.

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One day it's like a miracle.

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It will disappear.

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>> And from our shores, it would

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get worse before it gets better.

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Could maybe go away.

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We'll see what happens.

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Nobody really knows.

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>> Stay calm.

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You know it is going I way and

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will go away and we're going to

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have a great victory.

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>> Just to sort of give you a

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big picture of the book and you

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can see right there the

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contrast.

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Woodward paints a picture in

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this book of failed leadership,

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a betrayal of trust of the

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American people.

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We see February as a lost month.

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Where something could have been

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done.

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He knew, and he just have to

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wonder when you read this book

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if the president had not played

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it down, and if he had shared

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with the public these details,

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if he had shut down the country,

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if he had said, wear a mask.

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He knew it was airborne.

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Wash your hands, socially

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distance.

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We have lost almost 190,000

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Americans.